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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 4:11 pm    Post subject: camaro Reply with quote

new Chevy Camaro beat the newly-redesigned Ford Mustang and now-already-a-year-old Dodge Challenger in sales for September. It's the fourth straight month it's done so.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

government motors can make it the peoples car..
I'll vote yes to that
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you build better product , something the other guys lack - yeah - it sells
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's still ugly, hard to see out of, fat and cheap on the inside. I know, I spent 13 hours straight with one...far too long.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Picky, picky...sound like the snobs@Car&Driver....LOL

I'd own one just for the fact that I'd finally have a Camaro that some other schmuck hadn't half-butchered before I got my mitts on it.

I will admit, they do seem a bit on the large side, and from having just sat in the seat, visibility could be a hell of a lot better than it is(3rd-gens are GREAT for visibility)......still not 100% sold on the rear-end treatment.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

go sit in a 69
the blind spots are the same..
people asked for a 69 camaro..
that didn't = the glass greenhouse that was the 3rd gen
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

all of my f bodies were full of blind spots
the baddest pony car in town
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bowtie6872 wrote:
go sit in a 69
the blind spots are the same..
people asked for a 69 camaro..
that didn't = the glass greenhouse that was the 3rd gen


Bow, I HAVE been in a first-gen......and I gotta say the visibility is better with the old cars.

*shrugs*

Lots of people like to rag on the 3rd-gens, but I like the damned things....the HP deficit is easily corrected.

Just the damn-near impossibility to run true duals is the part I dislike....that, and leaky T-tops.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

too much money for a plastic interior that makes an entry level Honda Civic feel like a BMW M5. The one I rode in, was a rattly/squeaky pile - but, if they were looking to match the 1st gen camaros, I'd say they hit the mark.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

outselling and outpowering the competition
obammy motors camaro yeah !!!
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

how old was it at the time?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tiresmoke wrote:
bowtie6872 wrote:
go sit in a 69
the blind spots are the same..
people asked for a 69 camaro..
that didn't = the glass greenhouse that was the 3rd gen


Bow, I HAVE been in a first-gen......and I gotta say the visibility is better with the old cars.

*shrugs*

Lots of people like to rag on the 3rd-gens, but I like the damned things....the HP deficit is easily corrected.

Just the damn-near impossibility to run true duals is the part I dislike....that, and leaky T-tops.

Very Happy


cant just modify the tranny crossmember? rear suspesion in the way?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no room in the floor
vinny ran 3.5 in pipes through the car in a pro street iroc
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Although I'm happy GM finally built a winner with the public; It just doesn't grab me in the the looks dept. In that sense, I still like the Challenger better.

I hate the looks of the '10 stang. I drove the one CC had for a few weeks. A GT with the track pack and a stick. I liked it, but it wasn't awe inspiring.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kyhunter89 wrote:
tiresmoke wrote:
bowtie6872 wrote:
go sit in a 69
the blind spots are the same..
people asked for a 69 camaro..
that didn't = the glass greenhouse that was the 3rd gen


Bow, I HAVE been in a first-gen......and I gotta say the visibility is better with the old cars.

*shrugs*

Lots of people like to rag on the 3rd-gens, but I like the damned things....the HP deficit is easily corrected.

Just the damn-near impossibility to run true duals is the part I dislike....that, and leaky T-tops.

Very Happy


cant just modify the tranny crossmember? rear suspesion in the way?


I had true duals on my '85 but.. the two pipes where both run over to the pass side floor , and it was tight.. and was a bitch to weld all the bends..
there was no way a pipebender was not going to crimp the pipe dpwn to almost nothing..
then ,of course ,they came out with the 3" and 3.5 and 4" exhaust systems for those cars.. that ran two head pipes into two verters into one 3-4" mid pipe to a muff. to two tail pipes
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