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kyhunter89
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actually you told me what i already knew. seeing as you helped on the car and are a expert i figured you know what actual parts are on the car and ballpark price figures...
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1fast72nova
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I'd say shop around b/c MP70's can be found from $400 - $1200 ($600 or so should be more likely) but the point is, it depends on what you buy and where...
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| kyhunter89 wrote: | | actually you told me what i already knew. seeing as you helped on the car and are a expert i figured you know what actual parts are on the car and ballpark price figures... |
most of what we used, was "used"
we hardly bought anything new. SO like 1fast72nova points out, it doesn't really help much.
As for being helpful, if you DID put something similar together, I'd very willingly give you all the free EFI tuning help you'd ever need. |
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kyhunter89
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say the car was complete with 5.3 what would be needed to make 5-600hp and be driven anywhere?
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| kyhunter89 wrote: | | say the car was complete with 5.3 what would be needed to make 5-600hp and be driven anywhere? |
there are a lot of ways to do that, but I'd say it needs:
(1) a poweradder
(2) a way to tune the EFI system
(3) whatever supporting powertrain and suspension upgrades necessary to hold and put down the power
Do you want this with turbo power? You can almost do it N/A (costs more IMO) but it's probably cheapest to make that kind of power with Nitrous. |
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kyhunter89
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your really good, i'll give you credit, i mean REALLY good at stating the obvious.
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what are some ready aval. junk yard scores for a engine like that..
say a turbo
waste gate ect |
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if i was talking spray there would be no need for questions. a basic 200 horse wet kit on a 5.3 with "my mom's trailbrazers efi" will put down 500hp. im saying 500hp all off juice and still get mpg..
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| kyhunter89 wrote: | | your really good, i'll give you credit, i mean REALLY good at stating the obvious. |
did you read the question you asked me? I answered it straight up. If you're so awesome that you already know the answer, perhaps don't ask me then?
Seriously, there are a million ways to make that power. You said "no juice" well shit, I can respond with somethng like "Heads, Cam, Intake, Exhaust, and Tune" and it would ALSO be a valid answer.
Are you asking me how to make 500-600hp with a turbocharger, EFI, and megasquirt? Learn to ask a specific question like a normal human, then you won't have to call me "dickhead" when I give a generic response to your really vague and retarded question  |
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| bowtie6872 wrote: | what are some ready aval. junk yard scores for a engine like that..
say a turbo
waste gate ect |
Diesel engines. No cars that you'll find in a normal junkyard came with turbos that make any real power, unless you want to go with twins, even then - small exhaust sides make them "not a great choice" for bigger inch v8 domestic engines.
Holset HX35 turbos off of Cummins trucks can make 500hp on a gas engine when pushed. Powerstroke 7.3 diesel turbos, although they rotate the wrong way (thus negating upgrades in the future) can make 450-500hp apiece on gas engines.
Stepping up from there, it's best to have a friend who works at the Case/Caterpillar shop. We have a guy here in town who can put together big turbos for jut a few hundred bucks, using cores off of traded/older/broken diesel engines in things like earth movers, semis, track hoes, etc. |
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325 hp stock - a 250 shot will really get it going
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what about box truck IH turbo's
same as tow truck |
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does a ball bearing turbo really need much oil
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| bowtie6872 wrote: | what about box truck IH turbo's
same as tow truck |
which motor? a good rule of thumb (my own rule, no one else's so perhaps I am wrong) is how much torque that turbo supports on the diesel application.
are you talking about a DT466 motor? those had a number of different turbos on them.
You have TWO things to consider on the turbo when picking an appropriate one for your engine: the hotside, and the cold side. Hot side has to be sized right for your exhaust flow; compressor needs to be sized right for how many pounds per minute of air your engine's going to burn. |
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fast junk cars are the cats ass
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