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fordguy
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| dieselgeek wrote: | | fordguy wrote: |
because what obammy supporters fail to see is...
obammy believes X
people dont like X so Obammy puts a more friendly face on and uses smaller people that believe X to publicly distance himself from X so when people find out that X is going on Obammy can fire his smaller people and move them around so they can still do X for him and he isnt directly associated with or connected to X. it all fits together in a chain of what people believe and who they are associated with. look at the bigger picture. he IS what we are saying he is and hs people are saying and doing things that confirm it.
the best judge of character is to see who their friends are. all he hires and surrounds himself with are his friends and people that believe the same as he does. i have seen what these people believe from their own words and actions.
its all tiny brushstrokes in a huge ugly painting of what they want to do to our country and freedoms. |
Again, these are your opinions that you are trying to turn into something people will believe is "malicious intent" and it's a tactic - you're using a tactic to accuse him of being tactical.
And if the measure of a person is the quality of the friends they keep, then he beats Bush and McCain by many many miles. I could give two shits if he hangs out with people who talk loud - but it's the people that really fuck up this country that scare me. Shit, Bush was friends with Osama Bin Laden and his family. Cheney was pals with Saddam Hussein. Perhaps the real problem is that the "Obammy" haters like you, are physically and mentally unable to look at the situation with any kind of consistent/fair approach? From what I see, lots of guys on "your side" have that same problem - they like to tell people what to do, but they could never live by those same rules themselves. What's worse, hypocrisy? or failing at something with an honest attempt? |
like an honest attempt to protect freedoms and Americans or an honest attempt to destroy it and make us more like our enemies that our forefathers and soldiers died to keep us from being like?
the people that Obammy and his people look up to are some of the worst people the world has ever seen. sure the U.S. backed castro and hussein... but the difference is ONCE PEOPLE REALIZED THEY WERE MONSTERS THEY WERE NO LONGER FRIENDLY WITH THEM!!!! OBAMMY and HIS people look up to these people ONLY BECAUSE THEY ARE THE MONSTERS THEY ARE!!
if someone says " mother theresa and HITLER... the two people i turn to the most..." people know hitler is bad and freak out. not suprizing actually alot of people dont even know what nazis are. just its bad so anything thats bad is nazi. chairman MAO killed way more people than hitler. more than a few of Obammies people look upto MAO! a murderer and ruthless tyrant that killed far more people and was much more oppressive and totalitarian than hitler. castro isnt a nice guy and took his own people that supported him in the revolution and had bullets put in the backs of their heads because he was afraid they would usurp his power. obammy sent people to meet him and they came back beaming in love with him. meeting the castro "was like going home" they said? i could be mis quoting but the point is they love that monster. needless to say chavez and obammy have their little thing going on... attacking the only news that dare be a critic and tell some truth about whats going on.
all these revolutionaries and marxist/communist people that have seized control of healthcare and media are the heroes of this administration. instead of moving away from that as our forefathers have done they believe that is how our country should be run.
this is not opinion. obammies people visit these people and make public statements and write books on it. total govt control is what our founding fathers fought against. point fingers and call names all you want the republicans dont want an iron fist holding the reigns of our lives.
go ahead and blame Bush and Cheney for something. 
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| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:19 am Post subject: |
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| wow fordguy, you sure do waste a lot of words on "your opinion" - you should go learn a thing or two about "fact" versus "opinion" before you spew a bunch of racist shit on the internet. I got about 3 sentences into your post before I bailed - nothing there but "I hate the black guy" |
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gamble71
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| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:23 am Post subject: |
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actually, I don't anything about race in his post. He talks about the people they hang out with. As you were told when growing up "Guilty by association."
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| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:03 am Post subject: |
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| gamble71 wrote: | | actually, I don't anything about race in his post. He talks about the people they hang out with. As you were told when growing up "Guilty by association." |
guilty by association is a great example! you yourself said "racial profiling works!"
I believe you to be an OK guy, but, this whole situation is forcing you to believe racism is a good idea.
Karl Rove is a smart fucker. He planned all this out and it's working good! He, and his buddies, and many generations of their children, will be so wealthy out of this "war on terror" that they'll never have to work again. ever. |
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gamble71
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| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:06 am Post subject: |
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I don't believe racial profiling is racist. It happens everyday, you just don't know it. Example... my folks were returning something a few years back, and company policy was that they had to wait til the check cleared first. The store manager went ahead and gave em the refund after giving them the once over. Should they scream racial profiling?
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| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:08 am Post subject: |
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| gamble71 wrote: | | I don't believe racial profiling is racist. It happens everyday, you just don't know it. Example... my folks were returning something a few years back, and company policy was that they had to wait til the check cleared first. The store manager went ahead and gave em the refund after giving them the once over. Should they scream racial profiling? |
I fail to see how your example is racial profiling. And I'll argue that racial profiling is racist. That's already been decided by judges a lot smarter than either of us. |
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it was racial profiling in that.... they were sized up and seen as well to do white people. Just because it worked to their benefit doesn't mean it wasn't racial profiling.
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| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 12:27 pm Post subject: |
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| gamble71 wrote: | | it was racial profiling in that.... they were sized up and seen as well to do white people. Just because it worked to their benefit doesn't mean it wasn't racial profiling. |
That's a stretch of the definition of racial profiling. Anywhere else in the world, in that situation, the business is simply going out on a limb because the people seem trustworthy. I've never heard of someone saying or thinking "well, I WOULD give you your money back before the check clears, except you are black so... sorry, can't help ya"
so the bottom line is, if it WAS racial profiling - it was also racism. But more likely, I think it's just a really bad example that you're using, and not racism or racial profiling at all. The guy trusted them because he felt they were trustworthy. |
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all I see here is:
blah blah blaaa
no, blabla blabah blah
but I can say one things that's a fact, their ol man was one smart nigga!!
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| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:14 pm Post subject: |
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| 1fast72nova wrote: | all I see here is:
blah blah blaaa
no, blabla blabah blah
but I can say one things that's a fact, their ol man was one smart nigga!! |
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fordguy
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| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:26 pm Post subject: |
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| dieselgeek wrote: | | wow fordguy, you sure do waste a lot of words on "your opinion" - you should go learn a thing or two about "fact" versus "opinion" before you spew a bunch of racist shit on the internet. I got about 3 sentences into your post before I bailed - nothing there but "I hate the black guy" |
you cant tell fact from opinion. you dont wanna read facts. you dont wanna see anything that will lead you to search for facts for yourself.
just like every other libtard. dont read the post because its fact and start yelling you are a racist!! you racist!! with all your facts and proven connections to radicals i wont read about cuz your a racist!!
and GW Bush is a bad man!! and stomp your feet and as you walk out...
i laugh at you and mock you publicly
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| fordguy wrote: | | dieselgeek wrote: | | wow fordguy, you sure do waste a lot of words on "your opinion" - you should go learn a thing or two about "fact" versus "opinion" before you spew a bunch of racist shit on the internet. I got about 3 sentences into your post before I bailed - nothing there but "I hate the black guy" |
you cant tell fact from opinion. you dont wanna read facts. you dont wanna see anything that will lead you to search for facts for yourself.
just like every other libtard. dont read the post because its fact and start yelling you are a racist!! you racist!! with all your facts and proven connections to radicals i wont read about cuz your a racist!!
and GW Bush is a bad man!! and stomp your feet and as you walk out...
i laugh at you and mock you publicly |
what can I say, you're a person who thinks Fox News is "news" versus "opinion"
I'm not stomping my feet or walking out, I'm sitting here laughing as you and guys like you, constantly talk loud shit, get proven wrong, avoid historical fact, and everything else that allows you to act like babies and use political discussions as a reason to take out your anger from "whatever part of you is insignificant" on the nearest thing you think is OK: in this case, you hate the black President we elected. Thankfully, guys with your limited capability to think, are in the minority. Frankly, the fewer of you there are, the better this country is. We've been doing it "your way" for years, and shit only got worse. Go ahead and fade into oblivion as the world gets smarter... bottom line is, you have ZERO factual, tangible complaints about the current administration. You can't come up with ONE THING that affected you directly, already, but still you piss and moan as if you have some valid position. You don't. |
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all you have is dick cheney used to be friends with saddam... and Bush was a bad man! ILLEGAL WAR!! bull shit.
if you have a list of people that subscribe to a belief and speak about it and have video of them speaking about it and write books that get published about it...
that is a FACT. this person believes X because they say they believe X in their BOOK!!!
its not an opinion that the books or videos of them speaking exist. they either do or it dont. unfortunately for you and people like you they DO.
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| fordguy wrote: | all you have is dick cheney used to be friends with saddam... and Bush was a bad man! ILLEGAL WAR!! bull shit.
if you have a list of people that subscribe to a belief and speak about it and have video of them speaking about it and write books that get published about it...
that is a FACT. this person believes X because they say they believe X in their BOOK!!!
its not an opinion that the books or videos of them speaking exist. they either do or it dont. unfortunately for you and people like you they DO. |
HAHAHA
Because someone has been associated with a pastor who speaks against american policy, it's a FACT that they're a bad person?
So, if you've bought gas at a gas station run by a Middle Easterner, then by the same association, you are just as bad.
You have awesome logic. |
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im not talking about rev wright...
you have awesome ignorance
this isnt bushido... i will no longer dishonor myself by debating this with you until you know whats going on.
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