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spidergearsman Moderates you!

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Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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geek , I am starting to question your non existant credentials _________________

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spidergearsman Moderates you!

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Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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at least you had testimonials , but ......... _________________

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Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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| spidergearsman wrote: | who makes a top fuel water brake dyno ?
simple THEY DON'T DYNO THEM |
ehh... who cares if it's water brake or (hint) eddy current?? |
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Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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| spidergearsman wrote: | | geek , I am starting to question your non existant credentials |
if they don't exist, how could you question them?  |
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spidergearsman Moderates you!

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Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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dyno jet yeah - car show dyno _________________

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spidergearsman Moderates you!

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Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 11:46 pm Post subject: |
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yeah but
doesn't a turbine turn like 90,000 rpm
hp is torque times rpm
so the torque loads of a ge turbine is nowhere near the violence of a top fuel motor on 90 percent , they are not turning a hell of a lot of rpm
plus it is pretty rare a fuel motor survives the whole run - how can you get any kind of pull in less than three seconds , those mofos are dropping cylinders left and right the whole time
my info on fuel motors go back to 1999 when bernstein told us his racepac told him at a certain point on the track , under full clutch lockup , that it was making 8000 hp
there was a rumour last winter that prudhomme had ten thousand hp at firebird raceway
do you think that turbine was on a water brake ? and wasn't on more of a computer model ? I want to see a water brake hold a fuel motor on 90 percent
pro stockers depend on straining against the brake _________________

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Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 12:09 am Post subject: |
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| spidergearsman wrote: | yeah but
doesn't a turbine turn like 90,000 rpm
hp is torque times rpm
so the torque loads of a ge turbine is nowhere near the violence of a top fuel motor on 90 percent , they are not turning a hell of a lot of rpm
plus it is pretty rare a fuel motor survives the whole run - how can you get any kind of pull in less than three seconds , those mofos are dropping cylinders left and right the whole time
my info on fuel motors go back to 1999 when bernstein told us his racepac told him at a certain point on the track , under full clutch lockup , that it was making 8000 hp
there was a rumour last winter that prudhomme had ten thousand hp at firebird raceway
do you think that turbine was on a water brake ? and wasn't on more of a computer model ? I want to see a water brake hold a fuel motor on 90 percent
pro stockers depend on straining against the brake |
it sounds like you've only been around water brake dynos. Those are the "entry level" of engine dynos.
Turbine engines may spin 90,000 RPM, but diesels spin about half what a top fuel engine spins. And they get dyno'd at far more torque, all the time.
I use Racepak all the time and there's no "horsepower" readout. Not sure what you or Bernstein are talking about. Perhaps he was using incremental times and the weight of the car to get a general number. |
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bowtie6872 Master of Boredom

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Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 7:38 am Post subject: |
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| dieselgeek wrote: | | spidergearsman wrote: | yeah but
doesn't a turbine turn like 90,000 rpm
hp is torque times rpm
so the torque loads of a ge turbine is nowhere near the violence of a top fuel motor on 90 percent , they are not turning a hell of a lot of rpm
plus it is pretty rare a fuel motor survives the whole run - how can you get any kind of pull in less than three seconds , those mofos are dropping cylinders left and right the whole time
my info on fuel motors go back to 1999 when bernstein told us his racepac told him at a certain point on the track , under full clutch lockup , that it was making 8000 hp
there was a rumour last winter that prudhomme had ten thousand hp at firebird raceway
do you think that turbine was on a water brake ? and wasn't on more of a computer model ? I want to see a water brake hold a fuel motor on 90 percent
pro stockers depend on straining against the brake |
it sounds like you've only been around water brake dynos. Those are the "entry level" of engine dynos.
Turbine engines may spin 90,000 RPM, but diesels spin about half what a top fuel engine spins. And they get dyno'd at far more torque, all the time.
I use Racepak all the time and there's no "horsepower" readout. Not sure what you or Bernstein are talking about. Perhaps he was using incremental times and the weight of the car to get a general number. |  |
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spidergearsman Moderates you!

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Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 10:20 am Post subject: |
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bernstein owns racepac ,with ray alley , I think he should know _________________

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Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 10:20 am Post subject: |
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| spidergearsman wrote: | | bernstein owns racepac ,with ray alley , I think he should know |
welcome to 8 years ago gramps - racepak sold a LONG time ago |
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Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 10:35 am Post subject: |
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haha go scrape your obama sticker off of your honda _________________

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spidergearsman Moderates you!

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Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 10:36 am Post subject: |
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once again , the efi industry goes down in flames - excuses please
nascar should make it optional _________________

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Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 10:49 am Post subject: |
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| spidergearsman wrote: | | haha go scrape your obama sticker off of your honda |
This is your reply to now knowing that Racepak got sold to MSD like 3 decades ago?
Here's another update - WE PUT A MAN ON THE MOON |
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spidergearsman Moderates you!

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Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 10:53 am Post subject: |
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msd is making their shit in china now - so fuck msd
I just point out the fact that armstrong and alley invented racepak for bernstein in the day
kenny has a real good understanding on the tune - thats all _________________

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